God is "outside" or "inside"?

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God is "outside" or "inside"?

Post by Piotr » Sat Sep 03, 2016 6:58 pm

Hello.

What I heart from AJ's lectures is that God is "outside",
beyond, 33 or 1033 and maybe following.

Please tell me, is it about language and terms that can hit our minds or souls?

Where I am wrong. I feel that God should be searched within me, at the deepest beginning of my soul, in my heart. Love is to be at my heart, isn't it.

And I am surpised of what I'am saying. Because it feels
to me, i shoud be looking for God in my heart (4th chakra) rather than through 7th chakra.

What 7ths or 8ths or 9th chakra is?
Is it a buddist mind or "wisdom".
Please help put some kind of a punchline to chakras and let it go.

In my opinion now, DivineTruth is based at heart, on the level of 4th chakra.
Everything else, according to what AJ say, is just the result, impacting other functions of our life.
The God's harmrony comes from there (all along to other chakras, top and bottom), Doesn't it.

I'm writing you this, because I want to find out what divinetruth is, where is starts, and I'd like to dismantle all the intellectual wisdoms.
All iI want is to get back on the right track

Thanks
Piotr

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Re: God is "outside" or "inside"?

Post by Benjamingp » Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:45 am

Hi Piotr,

when AJ says God is outside he means that the physical space (if it can be called so) where god lives, is outside the universe. It is logical because if god created the universe then he must have existed before then, and therefore obviously outside the universe.
This doesn't mean that god is unreachable, cause he is not. He can communicate with every being anywhere in (and probably outside) the universe. The way in which god communicates with us is through a "pipe" called the holy spirit, through wich gods love flows. I do not know very much about chakras, but the holy spirits enters your (spirit) body and your soul, so it makes sense that it feels like searching inside.

As i understand god does also communicate with us through gods laws (e.g. law of compensation, law of attraction, law of desire, ... ) which are totally in harmony with gods love. He also communicates through messengers of truth, mostly spirits which are in the at-onement state with god, but also people who act in agreement with god (where AJ/Jesus is certainly the most famous one).

By the way what do you mean by saying "beyond, 33 or 1033 and maybe following" ?

I hope to contribute to clarity
Best Benjamin
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Re: God is "outside" or "inside"?

Post by Benjamingp » Tue Oct 25, 2016 12:00 pm

I want to add to the post before, that god communicates always, and only through our emotions. Unfortunately most of the time we are detuned from our feelings and therefore cannot perceive god most of the time. This is a reason why we have "to search" god. The truth is god is always there, but we are blocking her, so that no communication can occur.

I feel it has more to do with emotions rather than with specific chakras. What i wrote is my (imperfect) point of view and not free of error, i'm sure there are people who can put the truth more accurately to you.

Benjamin
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Re: God is "outside" or "inside"?

Post by David R » Thu Oct 27, 2016 4:18 am

Hey Piotr,

The topic of god is a pretty sticky topic for me at the moment, but ill try to trust my feelings and answer this the best I can.

I feel maybe your confusion might be coming from the feeling that you search for god in your heart so he must live there inside you, in your soul as you mentioned. From my limited recollection and intermittent interaction with god. I totally agree that my interactions are felt from my sincere feelings (my soul) (Both receiving and giving)

But though you search for god through sincere feelings in your soul, and communicate this way with God. That does not necessarily mean this is where god exists. Logically as J mentioned in his talks and Benjamin pointed out above - If god created the universe how could he logically exist in it during the creation of it. I thought that was a pretty cool and succinct explanation J gave on the topic.

Good luck on your search!

David

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Re: God is "outside" or "inside"?

Post by Piotr » Sat Nov 05, 2016 5:03 pm

Hello

I'm not really proud of my previous post. Heavy thoughts.
I appreciate your answers guys especially when I mixed up too much, used not consistent language,
being frustrated.

I remember I was angry at AJ and I still need to feel about it.
It looks, before I spent too many hours with listening to his lectures without much of the processing
and I collected too many thoughts/ideas I couldn’t really comprehend.

I would like to apologize AJ and everyone for writing the following sentence in my previous post.
„ What I heart from AJ's lectures is that God is "outside",
beyond, 33 or 1033 and maybe following”.
To be honest I don’t remember AJ say it this way.
At the time I believed it’s possible but the whole sentence is not true. I went to far with my own thinking
and even more with attaching this to AJ.
I’m sorry and I apologize.

Please let me also put some comment to what i wrote next. As you could see I took some interest with chakras. I was all going OK, but in the end I got confused.
I started asking myself „where is God in this thinking”?
And I got frustrated even more and I wrote what i wrote.
Now I’m happy to take a distance from that and stick with what AJ said, that chakras
manifest our emotions, not the other way.
And I also agree with you Benjamin and David. Only from our emotions we can have a relationship with God.

many thanks

Piotr

ps.
I can imagine how „difficult” my first post may be to many people willing to step on Divinepath.
But along with that I did something worse. I misinterpreted and actually stated untruth.
I don’t have a good view on the whole thing so I’am going to ask Nicky.

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Re: God is "outside" or "inside"?

Post by Nicky » Sat Nov 05, 2016 8:48 pm

Hi Piotr,

Myself and David R (moderator) did have a brief discussion some time ago regarding your first post which David flagged to me in private and we both felt that there may have been an angry demand from you that other people answer your questions but we were both not entirely sure. Because you are a newcomer to the forum, I felt the best course of action was to give you an opportunity to respond further in this thread before getting back to you/providing feedback.

However, I would like to thank you for your honesty in sharing that at the time of creating this thread that you felt angry. I would like to encourage you to feel through your anger and frustrations privately (and owning them) rather than projecting your anger and frustrations towards others in a public setting such as the forum as this is damaging not only to other people but to yourself as well, and this type of behaviour is a breach of the forum terms of use. We are all going to make many mistakes, I have made many so far and will make many more in the future - I have learnt that the best thing to do is to not get hard on ourselves when this happens, but try to focus on learning the lessons so we do not make them again.

When we make the choice to fully experience our emotions privately, whatever they are (anger, fear, grief etc), we are not only being loving to ourselves and others, but also we are giving ourselves the best opportunity to release these painful feelings from our hearts. When we make the choice to project our hurt feelings onto others, we are not taking responsibility for our own emotional state and as a result, we will never be able to release this pain from our hearts thus causing more pain and damage to ourselves and other people.

I hope that helps with your understanding.

Best,
Nicky

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Re: God is "outside" or "inside"?

Post by Piotr » Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:18 am

Nicky,
I wasn’t aware of this anger until a few weeks ago.
But first I had to leave my “cage” to realize
I guess that’s not the only emotion to feel about
Really sorry. Appreciate your answers.
Piotr

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