Feeback discussion to Andrew Nairn, a man who has lung cancer

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Feeback discussion to Andrew Nairn, a man who has lung cancer

Post by Pierrejoseph » Thu Oct 22, 2015 9:44 am

This discussion is just FULL ON to me. It is exactly the addictive dynamic of co-dependance I have had in my entire life with women, exactly the one my mum created with me early on, exactly my NUMBER 1 block to progression and receive Divine love and happiness in my life and to attract my soulmate in my life.

"Love" to me at a emotional level is being nurtured, cared for, desired sexually and making me feel good about myself in order to AVOID FEELING MY DEEP SADNESS AND GRIEF, and of course I deserve it from women, and I am even ready to fully give up my will to satisfy the women who make me feel "loved" by them up to the point of letting me be entirely controlled by women who wants to punish or even KILL men (with the help of spirit women raging at men who are constantly in co-dependent addictive connection with them) as long as they give my this "love" I deserve so I can avoid to feel my real grief about how mum treated me (and taught me about what love is). FULL ON !!!!!

This guy's ex wife has died from breast cancer and she hag around him and want him to die from his cancer.

Even projecting sexually at women is what I learned love to be as it made mum feel good about herself. My major physical addictions (food, porn, masturbation) are just the result of me wanting to stay in this dynamic in order to avoid feeling my deep causal sadness and grief, a mountain of sadness that has built up with each new addictive relationship in my life. But before I desire to feel it, I need to feel my blocks to feel my angry/rageful demand (my false belief about love) on women to "love" me.

Jesus give all kinds of very practical recommendations about what Andrew can do to heal his cancer and what to start with.

I feel this feedback is appropriate and could benefit many men and women on this Forum. It is just all the truth I had to hear for a long long time and I am obviously finally ready after 48 years of my life. What a loss in time. Really.

You can hear it on https://www.divinetruth.com/www/en/audi ... Cancer.mp3

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Re: Feeback discussion to Andrew Nairn, a man who has lung cancer

Post by Eva » Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:18 am

Hi Pierre,
I too am listening to the feedback to Andrew. It came to me yesterday as an answer to my prayers.
And I am the woman it is about, although I am not mediumistic the way his wife is (was) but nevertheless, in terms of addictions very much is the same.
It looks like a global pattern, with angry women, raising their sons in incestuous ways, creating the addicitions within the boy and the young man growing up - to be looking for nurturing, love, sex - anything that takes away the pain. And the women do this to avoid their pain, of being hurt and violently treated, now wanting control and dominance.
I can relate to the situation of feeling superior to some men, maybe to all men but I haven't yet finished that investigation. I am also dominating and controlling. This is so FALSE, and I am terrified when listening to Andrew about what injuries I may cause the men and women I encounter in my life.
So this detailed personal feedback is so valuable, - Thank you Andrew for exposing yourself with Jesus!
And Pierre, this highlights the importance of not living in codependancy and also to be active and give feedback when anyoone of us realizes that this kind of addiction is going on, from ourselves and also towards ourselves. We all need to develop in courage and clarity and truth.
With love
Eva

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Re: Feeback discussion to Andrew Nairn, a man who has lung cancer

Post by Pierrejoseph » Sun Oct 25, 2015 5:18 am

Hi Eva,

I'd like to comment a bit about what you wrote if I may :
And I am the woman it is about, although I am not mediumistic the way his wife is (was) but nevertheless, in terms of addictions very much is the same. It looks like a global pattern, with angry women, raising their sons in incestuous ways, creating the addicitions within the boy and the young man growing up - to be looking for nurturing, love, sex - anything that takes away the pain. And the women do this to avoid their pain, of being hurt and violently treated, now wanting control and dominance.
And the very sad thing here is that often the abusive/controlling women themselves have not even been violently treated by there father/men in their own life, like it is the case for Ann. But they are still willing to be used by angry spirits women (who themselves often have been treated badly by men during their childhood earth life and want to avoid their sadness about it) to punish men,....men who themselves have even often never abused violently women in their own life (like Andrew). Do you see how sad this is ?

If women had predominantly been treated badly by their own father, then there is a good chance they attract another relationship scenario with abusive men in their life, but this is not the case here.

And men (like me) are willing to be controlled/punished to get what they learned from their mum to be the love they deserve from women. Mum's are creating their sons to become "unloving " subservient men, and then they are punishing them, but not for that reason because they are complicit in the co-dependant relationship, but just for being a man, because they don't want to feel their sadness about their mum lack of love, and the spirits don't want to feel their sadness about their dad bad treatment (or mum lack of love). How insane is that?

I have felt the other day one of my deeply anchored false belief, how it is so wrong/bad just to be me, just to be a man (for my mum). That I would prefer to die. to disappear for eternity than being a man, but I cant do that because it is impossible.
I am terrified when listening to Andrew about what injuries I may cause the men and women I encounter in my life
Your fear of truth about what you sew is a block to you changing, growing in love and correcting what you wish to for the better. Better to know it than to keep doing it and then pretending you did not know...
And Pierre, this highlights the importance of not living in codependancy and also to be active and give feedback when anyoone of us realizes that this kind of addiction is going on, from ourselves and also towards ourselves. We all need to develop in courage and clarity and truth.
I feel what is especially important in the feedback Jesus gave to Andrew is to develop a desire to love, to see, FEEL our demands as a SIN, and feel all our blocks to change, all our anger and false beliefs, and then our fears and and causal grief. Because we can know it intellectually true, but still we are going to attract at a soul level same kind of co-dependant relationship in our life, or our rage will become so strong, as for some older women, than no man want share their life anymore and they remain alone.

Thank you for sharing about yourself.

Cheers,
Pierre

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Re: Feeback discussion to Andrew Nairn, a man who has lung cancer

Post by maureen » Tue Oct 27, 2015 8:42 pm

Hi Pierre...regarding watching porn, this may also have to do with your mother teaching you that it is ok to indulge this transgression (sexual projection,etc.) to “compensate” for the “pain and sin” done to you (or to “her” in the first instance in her early life).

I'm not sure if you saw this clip from a presentation Mary gave in Texas where the issue of sexual projection came up Jesus on The Truth about Sexual Projection. In the dialog preceding this clip, Mary and the audience are in some ambiguity on this issue and share a similar confusion due to being on the giving or receiving end of sexual abuse when Jesus stepped forward and spoke God's truth on the matter.

You probably had a large feeling of ambiguity about sexual projection even after the 1st time your mother did it to you. But your ambiguity (resulting from her transgression) did not justify her continuation of that projection onto you (in a similar way justifying engaging porn because of the dismantled boundaries and confusion in the people in those movies feels wrong to us to exploit).

Maybe one of the things adding confusion to the equation is that your mother taught you it is ok to assuage your own grief this way and you need to feel that. To feel the horror of that....the terrible truth of how you where led down the wrong path and that you have now done things that are harmful to yourself and to others and also that you will need to turn back toward that painful time take your will out of her hands on this issue.

So that you can live in harmony with love and know the beauty of your soul and desires free of her confusing influence. Which God for sure would want for you.

Love,
Moti

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Re: Feeback discussion to Andrew Nairn, a man who has lung cancer

Post by maureen » Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:06 pm

p.s. The truth is, that it was not ok for your mother to continue to sexually project onto you even if (and especially because of the fact that) you were confused about what was being done to you (if that is was the case). It's as if she used your confusion to “allow” herself to not face the truth of how wrong it was...like when we are harmed by someone but uncertain about what has happened and the person causing the harm takes advantage of that confusion we feel to hold the position that we deserved it somehow. If your mother was justifying and giving herself permission to continue sexually projecting at her young son, using your ambiguous feelings about what was taking place as proof that is wasn't so bad (in order to minimize the truth of the harm she was causing), it is not possible to succeed at that from God's perspective. Because it is unjustifiable to do that to a child.

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